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Why do all modern western anime-like art styles look so similar to each other even more than actual anime?
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Because contemporary learning systems encourage repetition of accepted rules rather than self-discovery. That's why most artists aspire to be a redundant parody instead of a unique sincerity.
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I really don't know why the Castlevania cartoon was shilled so hard for having "great animation" when it always seemed off to me.
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Animated mainly by SEA/korean studios
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>>7153877
>This thread again
This art style is called South Korean "Anime" and it's better than your average anime by a mile.
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>>7153913
Gook detected

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If you are a /int/ermediate or /beg/inner in art, please use this thread to post pieces for critique or ask for advice. Please stop replying to crabs, nodraws and howies and instead focus on posted works!

>STICKY:
Completed: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uwaXKU7ev6Tw_or__o8ARpUb6r2rCZYJGqwSFV9AD98
New collaborative: https://hackmd.io/UMnZVhNITW-T2wZpHw6d0Q
w/ic/i: https://sites.google.com/site/ourwici/
Hardcore: https://hackmd.io/7k0XRnIQR6SValR77TDfZw?view

>WHERE to get study materials
annas-archive.org
>>>/ic/artbook
>>>/ic/video

>Want to practice figures?
quickposes.com

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can somone give me some advise on my SONIC OC his name is GREENIC because hes like SONIC but he is GREEN and he SMOKES WEED

PLEASE I WANNA BE A GREAT ARTIST SO THAT I CAN WORK FOR NINTENDO
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>>7153889
HOOOOT! Great work anon. I think it needs some more space for the shoulder/clavicle area, everything else looks good. Coom will lead you to greatness, but don't let it take over your art life. Keep it on a leash, that's the hardest part. These boards are great to vent that steam, and that's necessary to keep the grinding going. You're fortunate to have the coom power on your side. Congrats anon.
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>>7153882
Observation(al drawing) Feeds visual library
Attempt to reproduce from Observation(al drawing) AKA memory drawing Solidifies visual library
Random doodling General increase in ease of living in three-dimensional space

Thus, practice accurate copying alongside drawing that again from memory, then random mindless spontaneous doodling

Ideally, copy forms that other skilled artists people have already distilled into more digestible and workable shapes / volumes

Copying from photographs is something I consider more of an advanced skill because now YOU are responsible for converting the full brunt of real life detail - which is insanely fucking detailed, to something that is simpler, but other artists who have studied those forms, such as anatomy for 10, 20, 30 years, have ALREADY distilled the form down into simpler forms that all you have to do is copy to skip that entire process of simplification. You can start with Koos Eissen and copy his shit accurately.

This was a rather painful process for me in the beginning. Pic related is my old work from December 2022. I did no observational drawing at that point, just random doodling.
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>>7153902
thx bro, i'll keep the grind going
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Welcome to the first installment of the Yuri Girl Love General. I invite you into these threads to challenge ourselves by drawing at least two or more Female figures and put an emphasis on the figures interacting with each other; that means you're going to be getting involved into a little bit of story telling with your figures - not with words but purely under a visual medium and adding an environment or background with the figures is highly encouraged but it is not required. These threads should operate similar to the Yuri board >>>/u/ in the aspect that a drawing must contain at least two visible Female figures in order to post. For other drawings with a single Female figure such as the "1girlwhitevoid" pin up drawing or any drawings with a visible Male figure please post in the regular draw threads instead.

New to Yuri? Yuri is a genre from Anime that puts emphasis on relationships that are powerful between Females whether they be tender loving, sadistic, or just plain unfriendly. Please visit the Yuri board >>>/u/ for a general introduction to this Anime genre and just like the Yuri board suggests, drawings of Lesbian sex or nudity between two or more female figures is allowed but not required.

Have an OC? Shipping your favorite anime character with another lady? Got a personal project you're working on? Feel free to post them here but remember this is a visual arts board where you tell your story not with words but under a visual medium with forms and shapes.
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thank you, i will look up the ribbon method
>line weight
i started learning about this just a few days ago after someone saw my casca wip (picrel, be as critical as possible, i really want to improve), it's a bit difficult as i can't really get smooth lines with smooth change in thickness without resorting to the stabilizer
also i'm curious what resolution do you use when drawing? your lines are much thinner than mine but not so thin that you can see the pixels
i have been meaning to properly learn anatomy for a while now but it feels so damn boring that i've just been eyeballing everything and/or looking up references
that the way i draw construction lines makes everything incredibly messy too so not using a separate sketch layer is impossible for me (at least for now)

btw i copied the way you draw eyes and hair in one panel of a project i'm making and it looks way better
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>>7153884
15000 x 15000 kek. Drawing with high resolution better helps you with hiding little mistakes like color bleeding between the line art when you resize the image from a higher resolution. In order to learn anatomy you're going to have to be very passionate about it since there isn't going to be a pot of gold waiting for you in the end instead it's going to be a lot of trial and error. This is particularly why most of the faggots from this board draw porn because in order to draw porn you have to work with anatomy and that's how most of us learned. Do whatever it takes to get you interested. I strongly suggest you invest in acquiring Vilppu's academic approach in figure drawing and Michael Hampton's figure drawing. If you are able to somehow get Vilppu's videos and his series of figure drawing you will learn about how Vilppu has a methodical approach and it all starts with gesture. It's a rabbit hole and it's also particularly why /ic/ is full of schizo babble because of how difficult drawing from imagination is due to the abstract form coming from gesture. A good drawing all starts with how fluid and graceful it is, you can be good at anatomy but if the drawing is stiff it's not going to be as appealing.
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>>7153897
>15000 x 15000
i just tried creating a blank canvas with that resolution to see if my laptop can handle it and it made krita crash lol
>color
oh man, i very rarely color my drawings, i can't even get the color of the skin right
>draw porn
i have drawn some of that and, again, with the help of reference, was even banned from /g/ for posting a somewhat sfw version, i have been told i tend to draw boobs a bit too high up though
if you look at this sketch of the aforementioned casca wip (very messy as you can see) you'll see how i simplify the body to help me visualize it, basically 2 ovals connected by a cylinder, the "ribcage" and the belly oval thing are all just assumptions of mine, i haven't learned about them i just assume they are in those places with a bit of imagination

i thought i already had Michael Hampton's book downloaded, an academic approach sounds like the perfect way to learn, thanks for the help fren
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>>7153907
Oh cool you already got the idea down of using basic forms, we're pretty close to how we approach drawing from imagination the rest really all depends on continuing to draw. Knowing the bony landmarks from the skeleton will help you keep proportions in check and it'll further help you with knowing where forms originate from. How we get anatomy really all depends how well you build forms on top of one another by overlapping them and knowing what's stretching, compression, and pulling depending on what the figure is doing this is mainly observed from life drawing but you may also reference a good Manga which puts emphasis on form. The worst you may do is reference from anime since anime is designed to look good in movement; if you really want to draw anime do not fall for the trap of studying from an anime screenshot instead look at a Manga from a good artist that doesn't sacrifice details to meet a deadline or remain under a budget.
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>lolibait thread

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Mikey is so based. His hips are perfect for studying.
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>>7153063
another banger post sister
can i be in your epic yt 4chan compilation?

hi mom!
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>>7152569
someone post the webm, you know the one.
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>>7152948
Bro, outside gooning circles, no one actually gives a shit about it
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>>7152965
It’s almost as 4channers never touch grass gee
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I made my biggest progress in art when I started drawing less, and spending more time watching art videos, reading art books and browsing twitter art. Do 20 minutes of intense, focused drawing, then do 40 minutes of theory.
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>>7153363
>I made my biggest progress in art when I started drawing less, and spending more time watching art videos and reading art books.
I'm gonna be honest with you guys but it's the same for me, when I just draw I do improve a bit but I'm essentially reinventing the wheel when I could skip hundreds of years of learning by doing just reading about perspective.
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Based.

I to am a retard who learns very little by drawing a lot, and who gets the most information out of it being explicitly verbalized by someone.

That said, drawing a lot is still important so you can observe the theory stuff in practice and that helps you to fixate.
But if I haven't been exposed to the information before, then drawing will do me zero favors in learning it.
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praxis > active listening/learning > mindless repetition > doing nothing
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>>7153363
heres proof guys can make it too
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>>7153363
Beautiful crabbing, well done my friend.

Are there any books teach the fundamentals of painting from imagination in the same way that Vilppu or Huston teaches the fundamentals of drawing?

I just keep seeing shitty youtube videos. It seems very cryptic
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>>7153682
Med's map is a good start, I've also heard good things about the Richard Schmidt books.
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haha time to take your Meds xd
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What are the different schools of painting? The different approaches, etc. Drawing has sightsize, constructive drawing, and famous teachers like vilppu and Bridgman and so on. With painting though it's just like two youtubers
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>>7153758
>It’s the battle between antique and modern genius. M. Ingres belongs in many respects to the heroic age of the Greeks; he is perhaps more of a sculptor than a painter; he occupies himself exclusively with line and form, purposefully neglecting animation and colour […] M. Delacroix, in contrast, willfully sacrifices the rigours of drawing to the demands of the drama he depicts; his manner, less chaste and reserved, more ardent and animated, emphasizes the brilliance of colour over the purity of line.
>After dinner, holding in his hand a cupful of coffee, he brusquely went up to Eugene Delacroix, who was standing by the fire, and said to him: “Drawing, sir, drawing is honesty! Drawing, sir, drawing is honor!” In his agitation the cup of coffee capsized and poured over his shirt and waistcoat. He seized his hat in a fury… “This is too much! I shall go; I will not let myself be insulted any longer.”
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>>7153852
Is drawing for autistic people?

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>0: Thread for people who are interested in trades.

1: Post a brief backstory if your original character has one.

2: Character design critique and discussion is welcome.

3: Keep it fairly SFW. Lewds are fine but no explicit porn.

4: This is NOT a request thread. Artists ONLY. No spamming original characters/infodumps without proof of prior delivery.

5: Be sure to thank Drawfrens for their hard work as soon as you can, it's just common courtesy :^)

6: Avoid off-topic discussions and DO NOT respond to bait posts.

7: Leave all the chit-chat out unless to thank drawfrens. Draw more and talk less.

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>>7152837
Would hold and babytalk.
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>>7152837
Blog
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>>7152837
CUTE. Another Maybelline fanart I will add to the files. OC for return?
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>>7152958
Cute abomination against god. You got any non-humanoid OCs?
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>>7153347
None

>>7153809
Maybelline is the perfect name. : )
Mine is >>7127133

>>7153818
I’d give each head a pat.
>>7127133 is mine, I’d say she’s toeing the non-humanoid line. Lizards already have that sort of build.

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How important is it, for you, to set aside special practice time to develop your line dexterity? How much time to you spend grinding muscle memory exercises?
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>>7151527
Not OP, but I think both is good.
YMMV though
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>>7150929
This guy is like an eternal NEET, no idea how he does it
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>>7150929
Why? KJG didn't give a shit and cared about his wrist health. Learn figure drawing or some shit.
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>>7151504
it is. 30 minutes is max you should do with them. Doing nothing but warmups feels safe and if you do them for a long time then you feel like you progressed so you can stop.

THAT is actually a /beg/ trap that is easy to fall into.
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>>7151527
Is this your work anon?

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Why You Should Copy Anime:
https://i.imgur.com/zNDsyF0.jpg
Naoki Saito: https://youtu.be/8jsZGeaWkhE?si=6HZIvG9Bx3y9qoHs&t=12
AnimeShijuku: https://twitter.com/animesijyuku/status/1717415459778347358
Krenz: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kbKqIJcIUCw
**Strive for quantity AND quality.**

Anime Studying:
>Copy anime references exactly and draw them from memory. Use illustrations, screenshots, anime figures, 3D models, etc.
>Don’t copy recklessly. Use construction, color theory, and other fundamental concepts to rehearse a drawing process that you can later easily manipulate for original artwork.
>Post all of your anime studies. Post even when you’re told not to. Create an art community that actually draws and improves together instead of just talking about it.
>Number your attempts and link to your previous posts.
>Critiquers should lead by example by posting their studies.

General Anime Style Discussion:

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>>7153653
Then how does one learn? Isnt copying from reference one step of learning?
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>>7153357
>>7153370
>>7153547
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>>7153781
Less talking, more drawing.
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Drew my OC as a magical girl
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Guys, whats wrong with Bridget's leg?
Btw, is this GMI?
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>>7153792
I like it.

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>>7148923
You're thinking of the wind fetish guy. He talked about it on /g/.
https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/94035360/#94036168
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>>7144668
In the discord there’s a link to another server which apparently has ties to the Super Origami Kingdom.
https://discord.gg/wbdZQBtKyp
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>>7153335
NO STORY, NO MOTIVE, NO REASON & NO BACKGROUND CHECKS!
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>>7144668
>>7153823 art from a member!!
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>>7145354
some snowflake ass nigga from the discord is complaining because of the word tranny, which i find pretty funny not gonna lie

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I got a positive response so here's the first thread for studying Figure Drawing for All It's Worth by Andrew Loomis. Here's a basic schedule for the first chapter, but feel free to ignore it and work at your own pace. A schedule for the rest of the book will be discussed later.
Start by reading the first 32 pages. Don't worry about copying the drawings yet. Pay attention to the basic proportions pages. When you're done, got to page 38.
Pages 38-49: 2 weeks. Take your time learning the mannequin. Try drawing it in various poses.
Pages 50-56: 1 week
Then spend 1 week going back and studying the pages that were skipped.
Don't just copy! Try redrawing Loomis' drawings from memory after your initial copy, and take note of what you got wrong. Apply what you've learned to photo reference and try inventing figures from imagination.
The book:
https://files.catbox.moe/d2501d.pdf
And here's some refs:
https://files.catbox.moe/7246sw.zip

Good luck!
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>>7149250
Up to you. I don't think we need to be on par when it comes to progressing through the book, but I'm starting to go into the perspective diagrams too.
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just some ref/memory copies
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post 100
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stuffff
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Sorry been busy with other studies. Starting to get the hang of volumes, but still struggle with smooth curvy limbs. Might stay on these pages a while longer before moving on, the detailed mannekin looks intimidating.

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Previous thread: >>7066089

What is /ALT/?
If you're looking for a place to post your cartooning then you've found the right general. This is /ic/s 1st and only merged hub where both Eastern and Western stylization can coexist peacefully, hence the double title.
>Rules & Guidelines
(1) Any form of cartooning is welcome; so submit and receive feedback from others. (2) Please resize your images before posting. (3) Share your knowledge and (4) Remember to not be afraid of asking for critique. Most importantly, keep discussion at a civil level.
>I came for anime. Why does the image OP say cartoons general?
To distinguish from the anime study thread (janitor supported). Please post your studies there and personal work goes here.
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>Community Resources
>Tag the OP if you want a resource included here.
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trying out colours
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For an art trade
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guy I drew in my work notebook
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>>7153504
this style is wonderful, keep it up

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>What's a webtoon?
Webtoon is the ancient Korean art of scrolling comics. Instead of traditional manga/comic pages, panels are spread out individually for easier reading on cell phones.

>So they're just spliced manga/comic pages?
You can do that if you want, but they're fundamentally different for a few reasons. For example, panels tend to be drawn longer to fit phone screens, and traditional 2-page spreads are not possible to fit in scrolling format.

>Are there standard page sizes?
Technically yes, but it depends on which platform you post in. Naver Webtoons uses
800x1280px, but the site automatically splices & resizes images anyway.

>Do I have to make it in color?
If you want subscribers, yes.

>Why would I make one?
To be rich & famous, of course. All jokes aside, the pay is low if you're lucky enough to get hired in the first place, the deadlines are more brutal than the manga industry, and the average reader age floats around 11. But as a novel medium with a growing industry, it may still be worthwhile enough for you to experiment.

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>>7135569
Yes it's possible but it's extremely hard since early 2023 because the Webtoon suits demonetized canvas artists and most originals now are Korean imports.
A few canvas comics are just the censored version of their nsfw Patreon and they make cash off fujos so maybe try that.
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>>7152264
It's a scam.
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>>7152110
General rule for YA writing is to write something you would have read when you were a teen. You have to be brutally honest with yourself.
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>>7153761
that's actually really good advice
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>>7153612
I'm sorry for those who do it.
I see the first in the rankings 1150 super likes with 569 subscribers, I'm sad for him.

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>>7153854
Using a whip as a melee weapon...
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>>7153866
hot
I want to rape her


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