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posh spice takes it up the arse editionprevious >>23343802
>>23347485>Did that much magic truffles?Might have been time better spent.I did two degree and barely anything else besides school. I had school friends but was too autistic to build any real friendships. And all my dating attempts failed spectacularly.So my only recollection of the place is the many times I grabbed by Stadtfiets and cycled for an hour out of the city along the meadows.
>>23347261Dare I say, based?
Are there any good cities for budding writers? I was staying with a parent to save for a down payment on a house, but the prices are just too expensive now so my savings are worthless, and my employment at the place nearby is probably going to end in the next year. I’ve got to figure out a place to go.
>>23347439What would it take for you to give a 21st century writer a chance?
>>23347467Based! Based and Based! Sir you're on a roll!
/pg/ - Poetry GeneralPost poetry, your own or otherwise, and discuss. Critique and discussion constantly in dire supply. If you're looking for critique, consider giving details on what exactly you're wishing to improve in the work(s).
>>23314114that's not the only wind
>>23314900love that shit better than reading
>>23317534that's some excellent bar-room poetry anon, well done
>>23323659/pol/
>>23324456KEK
Today is Novalis' birthday! Wish him a happy birthday, everyoneAlso, Novalis discussion thread
So, was he Catholic or not?>There once were beautiful, shining times when Europe was a Christian land, where one Christendom inhabited this humanly fashioned part of the world; one grand common interest bound the most distant provinces of the wide spiritual realm.>Only religion can reawaken Europe, make its people secure, and install Christendom with new glory in her old seat as peacemaker, visible to the whole world.
Herzlichen Glückwunsch!>>23347101Yes, very annoying.
>>23347101yea he was funny. always good to remind people of their literary plebian status
>>23347101I can't look at a picture of Novalis without imagining him telling me to fuck off until I read the entire Canon.
Who is the ultimate german romantic poet between him and Hölderlin?
"Tattertown" editionPrevious: >>23328783/wg/ AUTHORS & FLASH FICTION: https://pastebin.com/ruwQj7xQRESOURCES & RECOMMENDATIONS: https://pastebin.com/nFxdiQvCPlease limit excerpts to one post.Give advice as much as you receive it to the best of your ability.Follow prompts made below and discuss written works for practice; contribute and you shall receive.If you have not performed a cursory proofread, do not expect to be treated kindly. Edit your work for spelling and grammar before posting.Violent shills, relentless shill-spammers, and grounds keeping prose, should be ignored and reported.Simple guides on writing:>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHdzv1NfZRMComment too long. Click here to view the full text.
If I have characters conversing, I might use a simple adverb for a single line in that dialogue to add emphasis. Often times it's unnecessary but may be useful to quickly set the conversational tone, which is useful particularly when the conversation is short, it's involves a side character who doesn't appear again. E.g. A young, good looking new guy talks with a coworker we haven't been introduced to yet and we get a sense of how shitty his work place is."Hello.""Hi," he replied standoffishly."Nice day today, isn't it?""Sure."If I wrote more dialogue, the coworker's short answers might help the reader see their disinterested/unfriendly nature, but it's not always appropriate to flesh out every single detail which can cause reader's slog.
>>23345823Did you ever hear the tragedy of Darth Plagueis The Wise?
>>23347052>how do you call the thingesl detected
>>23345823I suspect a real groomer would go for a "yes, and.">Perhaps she meant it when she said it, but she is a flighty young lady: I'm sure she'll take you back next week.>Young women can be so cruel at that age, but they never mean it; they know nothing of the world.Words that feel like agreement and comfort, but twist what happened into a full breakup or portray it as the fault of her youth.
>>23338313>I have a great idea for a novel but I'm stuck with starting it because I want it to be realistic to a certain extent but I don't know where to do research.It's going to be about a family in america, but I don't live in america, where do I get info about where places are in America. For example, lets say it takes place in new york, where would I get like a map of a "district" or whatever so that I can say X cop of the family works at X precinct, etc.I could create a fictional futuristic city in America if I wanted for the novel and it would fit the story still I guess.
I want to know what made them so great. Can you recommend any books?
>>23347409>tall>chiseled featuresNot necessarily. Some Germs are pretty ugly or average. Some are not tall.
>>23347409...
>>23347427Thanks!
>>23347409>>tall>>blue eyes>>pale skin>>chiseled featuresAccording to what source did they look like this?
>>23347499saw it in a dream
Genuinely curious about you guy’s opinion.
>>23347249Unironically loved your prose, read just like a page of The Old Man & The Sea.
>>23347055> Any recommendations?Read fewer anime books and more classic novels.
>>23347249Your “jokes” are retarded and cringey. That’s why. You’re not funny. You’re a fag.
>>23347459Care to recommend one? I mean it in an earnest sense.>>23347463What’s so bad about being a fag?
>>23347496Christopher Marlowe’s Dr. Faustus
>You say: "'Ere long done do does did">Words which could only be your own>And then produce the text from whence was ripped>Some dizzy whore, 1804Who is he referring to?
I guess Keats or Yeats because he mentions those in the song too. I love the cadence in these song lyrics
>>23347419The "dizzy whore of 1804." The lyrics are a fabrication meant to illustrate the point, i.e. there is always a text one won't know. Moz and Linder Sterling are trying to outwit each other with ironic references throughout the song.Morrissey often has interesting personifications like this... "The Tattooed Boy from Birkenhead" perhaps being the best. Maybe his novel is worth a read.
>>23347466interesting did not know that or of Sterling
>>23347472Yeah. They portray this moment well enough in the otherwise unmemorable Morrissey biopic. Morrissey gets Sterling trying to pass Shakespeare off as her own earlier in the song, then he chastises her (and by extension, us):>If you must write prose and poems>The words you use should be your own>Don't plagiarise or take on loan>'Cause there's always someone, somewhere>With a big nose, who knows>And who trips you up and laughs when you fall>Who'll trip you up and laugh when you fall- then he gets caught in the OP verse. A funny and flippant song; Morrissey at his nerdiest. Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
Have any sociologists/philosophers written on the subject of Korean Wave i.e. sudden interest in Korean culture as a symptom of decaying late neoliberal capitalism? I really don't get the appeal of Korea, the women are pretty I guess but the culture itself is so soulless that even the fucking Netherlands looks like it exudes soul compared to them
>>23345894Knowing why does this happen won't change the fact that it did happen, it just did. This knowledge is beyond useless. All knowledge is ultimately useless. Stop seeking it.
>>23346580It's really not mate. They were basically slaves of China for like 99% of their history. 99% of their history is bootlicking. That's not "batshit insane" Unless you count all the genocides they did during the Korean wars. Yeah, those were batshit insane. One such would be the Bodo League massacre.
>>23345894>the culture itself is so soulless that even the fucking Netherlands looks like it exudes soul compared to themThat's the appeal. Perfectly assumed soullessness played 100% straight all the while being functional on a basic worldly basis (inb4 birthrates). It's its own sort of comfy. Also I just like StarCraft.
>>23347130I don't know. It's pretty amazing that they exist independently at all even if they were split into two parts by the West.
>>23346498Their movies are better than anything that Japan has to offer in the cinematography industry. Animes are baby shit.
Columbus, Ohio /lit/izens, why did none of you warn me that The Book Loft is a rip-off? It's all fucking new books with 5% discounts on the publisher list-price. Wow, so instead of paying $25 I pay $23.75! I was extremely disappointed by their "Foreign Language" section. It was one measly shelf and all the books were Spanish! Hardly any French books. The only one worth grabbing I found was a Proust short story collection. Their online catalog made it seem like they had a bunch of French langauge titles in store, but I now realize they just order that shit off Amazon and then resell it to you. Oh well...I did find some English language books I wanted, but I couldn't buy what I really wanted because every fucking book was $20. I miss McKay's Used Bookstore. Ohio fucking sucks.People should use this thread as an opportunity to let anons know about the best bookstore in their city. That way people can avoid the mistake I made today by going to The Book Loft.
>>23346425As a recommendation, in the UK Oxfams are usually best for books but also a bit pricer than most other charity shops (from £2.99 whereas the average charity shop sells a book £1 each). Posh areas have better selections. But even in econimically depressed areas you can still find some good stuff.
>>23346425ALL TRUTH
I hate sellers which try to initiate conversation. Just let me check the books in peace you disgusting peddler, I don't care the slighest about what's on your mind
>>23346302The Book Loft sells the same dreary books that you'd find in Barnes & Nobles or Books-A-Million. There is nothing special about The Book Loft.
>>23347376I found Carpenter's Gothic which I doubt those shops sell. But yes, it was disappointing. I was imagining it was like McKay's and that their inventory consisted of mostly used books that patrons trade in. But it's literally just Books-a-Million like you said...BUT OMG IN A HISTORIC BUILDING IN THE BRICK-LAYED STREETS PART OF TOWN OMG SO HECKING INSTAGRAMMABLE!!!!Now please rec me a decent book shop in Columbus.
>getting into philosophy >start to some self reflection and challenge my worldview>drop it before it changes anything in mewhew that was scary
>>23347465You failed.
>>23347465
What do I read first? The Rig Veda? The Bhagavad-gītā? Upanishads? Sankara?
>>23346667> Not by their own self-nature of sun-nessSun-ness resides in the sun as its own nature and not in those illuminated objects which receive its light, just as Atman-ness resides in or comprises the Atman and not in the things which are illuminated by the Atman.>>23346820The same infinite awareness of the Self is present as the innermost luminous awareness-presence inside all beings simultaneously like how the expanse of space is both omnipresent and found within all objects. It is directly responsible for the everyone’s immediate, constant, self-evident and non-conceptual awareness of themselves. Its presence also permits the intellect (Buddhi) to be able to perceive and discriminate things when the intellect invested with this light. Different experiences forming the content of different intellects are not different types of awareness, they are just differences inhering on the side of the thing receiving illumination, like two different shaped rocks receiving light from the same sun, so different experiences happening in different beings at the same time doesn’t contradict them having the same underlying root awareness.
>>23347383>Atman-ness resides in or comprises the Atman and not in the things which are illuminated by the AtmanOk well at least the sun is real and actually illuminates things which are then registered by our senses
>>23347346Read chapter 9 of Vasubandhu's Abhidharmakosha
>>23347398Retroactively refuted by Guenon and Shankara (PBUH). The sun is made out of nothing as it's just jiva reflected throught he presence-awareness of the intellect-experience of atman-brahman by virtue of nonduality. Read the Mahamahasrisripeepeepoopoo Upanishad, which Buddha traveled forwards in time to plagiarize.
>>23347402The son is menstrual blood, the moon is semen, beings not born from a womb can't see the sun or moon.
J.K. Rowling writing Harry Potter at a café in Scotland in 1998
>>23332474I wanna suck those cantaloupe milk monster swingers
>>23345718>and then use it as a way to target vulnerable girls and fuck their assholeswow that's terrible, who would do such a thing?
>>23332474I think this just reveals that if you suddenly strike gold with a children’s book and it makes you a billionaire, you can age in reverse thanks to the collapse of any and all stress in your life. I mean, really. Imagine resting your head on your pillow knowing you penned the highest selling book of all time and your estate is financially secure for life.
>>23332695For all of the regular medical procedures that actually move the needle on aging, yeah you do.
>>23347412Anal sex is disgusting. Kill yourself.
What happened to /crit and feedback threads? Let's bring them back.OP will crit every submission posted here. I promise to help and be fair. I'll post my own stuff later.Post your fiction excerpts, non-fic rambles, poems, whatever and in exchange give feedback on others' work.>No matter how bad you think something is, try to find at least one thing good to say about it.>And please provide your fellow anons with more advice than kys, stop writing, etc. Just a few sentences, what works, what doesn't, and ways their work can become better.ok somebody post something they're working on and i'll read it.
>>23347036Then you should have taken the hint and fucked off
>>23343390>>23344387Good points. Thank you.It's actually a lesbian story. MC is gaslit by her abusive roommate.
>>23347036Yeah, copying and pasting it there would be annoying, but so is doing it here. The not-lazy thing to do would be to try writing it first then posting it for critique with your particular concerns as an addendum. If you can't fit it into a reasonably-sized body of text to post then it doesn't have a place here.
>>23345214From what I know so far of your story, if I have it right, the captain explaining his civ to the alien is only the frame story; your "backstory" is really the story itself, and the alien+captain setting is just the device. Is this right?The best way to worldbuild is to have your characters experience the world, but in this case it would sense for the captain to be explaining to the alien about human customs, technologies, etc. so a lot of the captain's speech can be thinly disguised exposition to the reader.
>>23347424>And since you've now perverted my pure /crit/ thread into some abomination of adv and wg, I might as well ask:Are there any other shortcuts to easy humour beyond 1) grandiloquence like Rape of the Lock, Confederacy of Dunces or >>23341716 where the mc overblows trivialities into world-shaking drama; and 2) massive understatement/casualness towards big things: I particularly love "Mistakes were made" as the response during a Nuremburg trial or similar, the passive voice and minimalising and complete shrugging off of personal responsibility -- "hey, things got weird, let's not play the blame game here" -- and I find it very funny to use irl. "Look, dad, your car was crashed by someone, it's all very regrettable but these things happen all the time."Beyond these two techniques, can you think of any other easy ways to turn any situation/scene into a comedy? Thanks anons.
This is not an atheist/religious question. I'm genuinely curious as to what people on this board, and this board only, would have to say about this. You guys are supposedly the smartest board on 4chan, and, all things considered, civilized.I ask because Christianity does come up in threads sometimes. I know and care very little about any religion, to the point that I had to google if Jesus was related to Christianity. From the quick research I did before posting this thread the things that came up that I suspected (afraid i may state the obvious) are:1. Jesus resurrecting. People do not come back to life after dying. Laws of physics, or common sense, for that matter? Thousands and millions of people dying every day as data, and zero cases of it happening. Typing this makes me feel like I'm talking to an 80-year-old grandma.2. There is no heaven; it's unscientific and irresponsible to wishful think like that. I can already hear what an 80-year-old grandma would say if I asked her why she thinks heaven exists, "because millions of people throughout history do the same, im sure, all that history couldn't be wrong/making up stuff." But hopefully, you don't think like that, right, anon? You coincidentally choose what makes sense to you that just happened to be what was mainstream, right?3. God? Father of Jesus? See 2.And the list probably goes on if one were ever to open the Bible or read anything related. The only possible explanation that I can think of on why someone literate and rational would cling to it, albeit dubious, is something along the lines of, "but they have good moral and ethical teachings." Sure, let me pick this novel riddled with inaccuracies and mistakes, and straight-up lies passed as facts to be my baseline for life values. Pardon my ignorance if I overlooked some things because, like I said, I know next to nothing about any religion.It's a bit cringe this old religion type inquiry, but I'm genuinely curious, why would you be Christian (or any religion for that matter, really)? But I ask about Christianity because I see it coming up way more frequently. I really wish I could get some answers that would be reasonable on the slightest, and maybe change my mind, though, expectations dwindle.
>>23346751The world is boring. Strange, mystical things don’t happen.
>>23346953> Human beings make basic presuppositions every day that are nonsensical if God doesn't existName some.
1) the question is fundamentally about whether Jesus is God (or even whether God resurrected Jesus) because an omnipotent God obviously could resurrect someone. The fact that people die everyday and don’t resurrect is basically an irrelevant detail because those people aren’t the messiah, a particular man who was born, died, and resurrected at a particular place AND TIME. Ironically, the story of Jesus would make even less sense if people were dying and resurrecting all the time because he would be less special, obviously. 2. It’s unscientific to make claims about that which cannot be scientifically tested. Science makes claims about the natural world. It necessarily can’t make claims about the non-natural or super-natural world. It actually cannot even make claims about itself. So no, it’s not scientific to deny the existence of Heaven nor is it unscientific to affirm it. When you actually put questions to the scientific basis for denying Christianity, the denial doesn’t stand up. Every one of them relies on a logical fallacy or simple ignorance. That’s why I’m a Christian.
>>23346737500 people witnessed him rise from the dead and his disciples were tortured to death for refusing to doubt it. This is written in history and the life of this man who lived so silently that we doubt whether he even existed has been without a doubt the greatest influence on the world for over 2 thousand years and counting. The ethics of christianity came from nowhere, anyone who understands philosophy knows that complex narratives equate to data and in the same way that our dna is incredibly complex and intelligent, so is the narrative of Christ; these things don't come out of nothing, that is a scientific impossibility. That being said, anyone who claims to have 100 percent faith and or claims to be fully content with the truth and live of Christ is lying to themselves or others. The reality of God is as terrifying as it is beautiful. We are living in the matrix, and God only knows what is in store for us upon death.
>>23346737Try to read the New Testament charitably, as history, the way one might read Tacitus or Thucydides. It is not a novel, it is an anthology of 27 books consisting of 21 letters from early followers of Jesus to various churches written a few decades after his death, 4 gospels, being accounts of the life, death, and resurrection of Jesus, 1 account of the early church after the resurrection, and 1 prophetic text. As to the pic you posted, Jesus is, in fact, saving people from themselves. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tiYf6ITgWbk>1. Jesus resurrecting. People do not come back to life after dying. Laws of physics, or common sense, for that matter? Thousands and millions of people dying every day as data, and zero cases of it happening. Typing this makes me feel like I'm talking to an 80-year-old grandma.Miracles are supposed to be abnormal and inexplicable by scientific means.>2. There is no heaven; it's unscientific and irresponsible to wishful think like that. I can already hear what an 80-year-old grandma would say if I asked her why she thinks heaven exists, "because millions of people throughout history do the same, im sure, all that history couldn't be wrong/making up stuff." But hopefully, you don't think like that, right, anon? You coincidentally choose what makes sense to you that just happened to be what was mainstream, right?It exists on a different plain of reality. >3. God? Father of Jesus? See 2.Not in a biological sense. Jesus is also God. I'll allow you to do your homework on Christology and the trinity since I'm sure that confused you even more. Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
