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/vrpg/ is a place to discuss all types of role-playing video games, including single-player, multi-player, and massively multi-player, turn-based and real-time action, western-style and JRPG.

Does this mean RPGs are banned on other video game boards? No! /vrpg/ is just a separate board specifically focused on RPGs where discussions about your favorite games can thrive.

Please familiarize yourself with the rules and remember to use the spoiler function where appropriate!

Please note that, like /v/, "Generals"—long-term, one-after-the-other, recurring threads about a specific game are not permitted on /vrpg/. Such threads belong on >>>/vg/.


Daggerchuds Rise Up!

https://youtu.be/BahULQDXGas?si=0cTJXAwtiu8DojPQ
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Have Zaric Zhakaron and GamerZakh ever spokeon each other?
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Don't worry about it!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0NaIIu8hWZY
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daggerfall and morrowind fandoms are actual examples of mass hysteria happening in real time

games are dogshit but there are people going around dedicating hours of their time trying to convince others they're actually the greatest things ever
daggerfall is like the ultimate lie game, game will say shit like "country x is now at war with country y" and pretend like that matters, manual will tell you it matters, but it literally only changes 1 variable and the only thing that variable determines is if the next time it should say "country x declares war" or "country x declares peace"

morrowind is likewise a game for braindead retards, the gameplay is literally just pressing attack over and over again until all the enemies fall over
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>>3468073
morrowindfags look at an npc with like 5 unique lines of dialogue that are delivered without any character in them as though you're reading wikipedia, but the npc has no shirt on and some intern thought it'd be funny to put a hookah on the desk in his room, and then they make a whole cult of personality around the guy

it's as though in a movie there is a character that's there for 2 scenes and he just delivers 5 sentences of exposition, but he has a metallica poster in the background and "fans" go WOAH THAT'S SCRIMBLIO THE METALLICA GUY HE'S SO INTO METALLICA SUCH A LOVABLE CHARACTER HAHA SEEN ANY METALLICA??! THATS OUR SCRIMBLIO

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why did this series disappear? I would love a new wizardry game. my only stipulation would be it needs to have yamada akihiro or yoshitaka amano style artwork.
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>>3457116
>feel like they're stuck in the past. Like the devs are devoid of any creativity, don't know how to recreate the magic and feeling behind 6/7, and kept remaking the first 5 sans 4 over and over again because it's easy and requires no real thought.
That's just genuinely Japanese mentality more than anything. When a Japanese man makes a pot, his mindset is turned towards mastery of that pot. He focuses on the flaws that keep it from being the idealized version of what a pot is, then he focuses on remaking that same exact pot without those flaws. He will make 10,000 pots over and over again, just perfecting this one simple design.

You can actually see this paradigm a lot in their culture as well. For example, they did the same thing with Lode Runner. While the west started to branch out from the original design by doing things with isometric designs in Lode Runner 2, adding in items and terrain in Lode Runner Returns, or doing 3D levels with Lode Runner 3D, Japan instead kept reproducing the design mechanics of Lode Runner the original, but just made the levels FAR more challenging then their western counterparts, making the far more difficult to complete while still retaining the same concepts.

Another non-video game example of this is their Galapagos Phone. I think recently the trend began reversing itself, but even as far as 2017, Japan had been developing and innovating on flip phone designs instead of switching over to the iPhone/Android smart phone designs, creating uniquely advanced flip phones that probably would have been insane had they been produced in 2005. But they just focused on improving the ONE thing, including its core ideas, over and over again.
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>>3467901
Which is a problem when they try to copy and perfect something that wasn't good in the first place, like Western society or corporate structures or rap music.
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>>3467909
This is true, especially so when the thing they get out of the product is not the particular thing that I like from it, and they improve on that. Like the fact that Compile Hearts tends to heavily focus onthe combat alone, with very little to do with actual dungeon exploring, which is the part I'm more interested in.

However, the Western mentality of "solve the problems with a new design" can also lead to issues as well. For example, if you really look into the game design through the ages and ask the same questions they ask, you can actually clearly see the real reason why adventure games "died out". They didn't die, they actually just turned into movie games and walking simulators.

Text Based Adventure Games:
>Gee, I can't see shit. It's hard to imagine.
Graphics Based Adventure Games:
>I'm still fighting with the interpreter. It never understands me.
Classic Sentence-Constructed Adventure Games:
>There are way too many verbs! I never know what the game wants!
9-Verb Adventure Games:
>I mean, honestly, I only really want to interact with certain objects in certain ways.
3-Symbol Dial AG:
>Can't I just click on the object and it knows what I want?

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>>3467943
Oh, I agree. Progress for progress's sake isn't good. But Wizardry 7 really was better than earlier Wizardries. I think there really is a degree of just not liking change that leads to a rejection of real improvement that doesn't destroy essence.
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>>3460244
There's nothing wrong with wanting to have pure versions of either, with the magical/fantasy settings having completely different laws governing reality. But the approach of "magic really is sufficiently advanced technology" and "grugs wearing hides and swinging crude axes is a result of somewhat recent civilizational collapse" definitely has a right to exist too.
Real variety is always good.

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Post your work/progress on your soon-to-be RPG masterpiece!
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>>3447711
im trying my best but the square i made in sdl won't move. i feel like im getting bullied and im 3 feet tall.
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>>3468053
>Ok. But what am I supposed to do to not die?
Well, you're suppose to attack the enemy.
And keep attacking them until they fall.
See if you can figure it out, how to win.

If you can't, you may want to skip the play-testing part in the game. (It is an optional thing.)
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>>3468060
how do I attack? I can't only teleport around.
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>>3468070
>When you're being attacked. A popup displays. You want to press the 'Z' / Action key to attack.
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>>3468075
Nothing is popping up. I get hit like 18 times and it sometimes goes to an error screen or sometimes goes to a black screen to retry.

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For those of you who backed it or somehow pirated it, what do you think? I'm about to do the Mine Dungeon from the Beta.
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>>3467470
The glowing reviews quite frankly depress and vex me. I know people are desperate for a suikoden but this is just insane. I've looked over the reddit and it's the biggest den of sycophancy and blind fanboyism I've seen.
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>>3467592
>Does underpowered magic and useless team attacks make this game bad enough not to play and enjoy?

No. But combined with the poor story, bad mini games, retarded translation and lack of any endearing character whatsoever then yes.
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>>3468036
...I like the minigames.
But yeah.
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>>3468031
I don't quite understand why they made some characters have really late stat growth considering the last bit of unique content in the game seems to be at level 80
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>>3465472
You literally forced away from the cities in Suikoden 1 because you are a fugitive

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>Parliament is about V5 politics, which are impossible to take seriously
>Night Road has the twink
>Book Of Hungry Names makes being an unstoppable killing machine lame
WoD fans are cursed
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>>3468035
felix is the flirty manwhore archetype to a T
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>>3468049
nah, that's Mason. Farah is the ditzy cutie trope
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Are there any JRPG-themed cyoas?
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>>3468058
you mean shitty isekai? yes too many to count
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>>3468062
Are there any that are actually good?

Lol. Lmao even.
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>>3467876
>if you can fit everything you need on a controller, it's kinda obvious that it's simpler
What RPG can't work on a controller?
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>>3467929
Nethack
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>>3467933
What about it doesn't work on a controller?
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>>3467960
It's easier for you to play it and find out.
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>>3467968
Just say it, dude

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Imagine having the creative freedom to make over a dozen full-fledged RPGs with continuous plot and lore, and wasting it on 90% slice of life soap opera in the most generic fantasy setting possible.
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>>3467304
Problem with Cold Steel and onward is series became a MODERN JRPG. People tend to forget that , primarily because westerners played it much later, the Sky trilogy was a mid-2000s affair. It feels distinctly different from Cold Steel due to that as well.
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>ironic weebs and westoids seething over Kiseki
It is simply too powerful.
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>>3467371
>Problem with Cold Steel and onward is series became a MODERN JRPG.
Being a modern JRPG does not necessitate chasing contemporary trends so hard that you alienate most of your audience for the sake of a broader market of newcomers. As an analogy, an indie rock band going into a larger studio and use more advanced equipment for their next album doesn't mean they're suddenly gonna turn pop.
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why does everyone call daybreak and reverie by their japanese names when the localised ones are just fine and sound cool? hell, i see people call trails into azure "ao no kiseki", those are the types of weebs that need to be put down.
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>>3468003
its a habit from the time when those games weren't localized, kiseki fandom has existed in the west for over a decade

which alice is your alice, anon?
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>>3467748
On the left at the entrance to the Underworld.
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I really shouldn't stick my penis in there... HOWEVER
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>>3468010
Mabel rambles about how cats are actually evil and going to take over the world when you're going down to the Grand Guignol in DLC3. Cats in the Lovecraft mythos (and in many others) are known for being able to sniff out the supernatural, like in Lovecraft's story "The Rats in the Walls".
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>>3468050
Though she was trolling you on that dialogue
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>>3468050
Lovecraft was a huge catfag (as expected from a based man like him), The Cats of Ulthar is another example

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>Xenoblade 1/X
>FF 12/13
>White Knight Chronicles 2
Are there really no other SP focused games out there? You know, the ones that capture aspects of autobattling and the love or hate hotbar wankery?
Everything I look at is either a Diablo clone or a CRPG
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>>3467089
Pretty sure you can. I linked my 15 y.o. guild wars 2 account to the new steam account no problems.
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>>3467089
>MMO Repacks
fuck me I clearly haven't been looking in the right places, never even knew these existed
that's awesome, thanks

>>3467093
wonder if my demo disc account is still on their servers
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>>3467017
>I may know the answers
>though one question I still hear
>what twist in fate has brought us
>to roads that run so near
Nobuo was looking to absolutely demolish his peak when he wrote this and answers and I think he managed it. Although he was contributing less and less to the soundtracks he was producing far more emotional pieces.
Gonna tear up like a little toddler when it plays in dawntrail.
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>>3467089
>I couldn't really find anything on an offline single player version of Final Fantasy XI that "just works". XI (classic) is consantly being called a predecessor of XII and has a large world so natuarlly it intrigued me. There is a CatseyemodXI server that looks interesting for solo play.
Oh, yeah there's a bunch of servers but they all run off of landsandboat https://github.com/LandSandBoat/server between that and guides you can setup a single player offline environment for XI & CoP.
Unless you really want to be offline or tweak yourself into a god retail is on level with it but like private servers aren't going to be offline. Rhapsodies of Vana'diel and trusts have changed the game substantially, RoV provides access to more trusts early, makes things cheaper/easier, accelerated levelling and trusts are your AI companions you'll rely on. Once you get into the quests/challenge system you'll boost yourself through but still require help from some other players.
One example you may need help is one of the first missions in the base game/zilart expansions, there's a gate you need to pass through but it's reliant on getting a drop from timed monsters so you can spend upwards of around 2-3 hours and not see it. On LSB I guess you'd give yourself the items to complete it the intended way but on retail etc you'd ask a linkshell/some people to help you get through the door to sync to the home point and beat the boss.

Retails main downside is it's price, it'll go on sale sometime between now and June for £10/$USD instead of it's usual price but it also costs £10~ per month to sub to; more expensive than XIV.
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3467089
>Why Nier?
Because it fits on what he asked. Both games are open world RPGs with auto combat that play like the other games I mentioned and to be really honest with you there's isn't much more than what I said as it's a very niche sub-genre. Almost everything else mentioned in this thread is either a normal rpg or game with no auto combat.

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>RPG rewards you for clearing it the wrong way
What are more games for this feel?
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>>3467975
Being a disingenuous retard who cannot stay on topic is bad, yes.
You fucking donkey.
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>muh NTR
Shut the fuck up, stupid fucking porn obsessed retards
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>>3467737
Mythical Beasts don't play.
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>>3467736
>cumskin too insecure to enjoy ntrkino
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>>3467736
it's more mindbroken faggots like you projecting NTR and rape fantasies onto every PG13 property imaginable
you have to cheese the game in the first place to clear the final mission at less than a fourth completion to get this anyway

Post your first RPG crush
This is Succubus from Diablo 1, thongs ass and tits were enough for young me having furious wan in the middle of game
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>>3468016
For me it was Rika
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Actual crush or just fap material?
>All of those nude characters that were ok in low resolution but can never be done again with modern graphics

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What are some of the worst rpgs ever made?
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>>3467926
A few years a guide was made for it and its reception improved.
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>>3467926
>game that plays like an actual tabletop rpg and nearly killed themselves over it

i played various gamebooks and S-Unlimited didn't play like any of them. it's madly random.
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>>3467926
you're exactly right, and that's why it sucks. It's a tabletop rpg, but with all the limitations and inefficiencies of being stuck in a video game, essentially stripping away what makes the tabletop aspect fun and unique.
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>>3468007
The fact that it got BTFO at its own core concept by an RPG Maker 2000 game is the more hilarious part.
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>>3467527
BG3

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April is the month of Uula. Be nice to her.
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https://ci-en.dlsite.com/creator/1121/article/1129422
Hakika made a new article with all the monster girls, he's going to update it whenever he makes a new one too.
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I LITERALLY HAD A WET DREAM ABOUT YANIE
I'M FUCKING GONE NIGGA I'M BEYOND HELP
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>>3467988
So this is what funny bunnies do to a man...
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>>3467988
I had one yesterday about Rabi telling me to get ready for our date in 3 centuries. Weird shit
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>>3468037
Rarely in my life have I woken up and felt this extremely discouraged at the same time.

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What do you truly admire about your favorite characters?

I posed the anime version of this to /a/ yesterday, and I was pleasantly surprised that I didn't have to repeat the thread every month for several months for it to take. I dare you to do better.

I will elaborate about Shion Uzuki in the comments.
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>>3467368
yeah you couldn't even deny coming from /a/ after this shit lmao
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I like cultured, feminine women. Women who wear dresses and read books, play the piano, etc.


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